a New Testament book containing an epistle from Saint Paul to the Colossians in ancient Phrygia

Number one, I said Colossians and Ephesians both have realized eschatology; Paul has reserved eschatology.

第一，我说过《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》都持实现的末世论，保罗持未实现的末世论。

Let「s look at Colossians now and go through it and talk about what」s at issue in Colossians and what is this letter actually about?

现在来看《歌罗西书》，翻阅一遍，讨论一下《歌罗西书》有什么问题，这封信是说什么的？

And Ephesians is written by another disciple of Paul using Colossians and Paul「s letters as models.

《以弗所书》是保罗另一门徒所写，用《歌罗西书》和保罗的信为模板。

Other people could say,well there」s also the vocabulary, the vocabulary is quite a bit different in Colossians and Ephesians.

也有人指出词汇问题，词汇也有很大区别,在《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》中。

Why do I say that Colossians and Ephesians were not written by Paul but by a disciple of Paul later?

我为什么说，《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》不是保罗写的，而是后来保罗的门徒写的？

The two that are the most debated probably now are Colossians and Ephesians.

现在争议最大的两封信，是《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》。

Now if you thought that Colossians sentence was long, listen to this one.

大家若以为《歌罗西书》那句长，听听这句话。

Remember how I even talked about with Colossians and Ephesians last time, you had this idea that they almost sound like the resurrection has already taken place.

记得吗，上次讲到歌罗西书和以弗所书时，两封信给人的感觉是，死而复生好像已经发生。

Let「s start with Colossians now, what is the issue in Colossians?

先看《歌罗西书》中的问题是什么？

Now I asked you to read Colossians before Ephesians, although it comes after in the Canon because I think Colossians predates Ephesians and instead of — basically you」ve got a choice.

大家先看《歌罗西书》再看《以弗所书》，虽然它在正经中排在后面，因为我认为《歌罗西书》在《以弗所书》之前出现，而不是…你们要作出一个选择。

Now other people would say, no, no, no Paul just was emphasizing different things when he wrote Colossians because the situation was different.

也有人会说，不，不，保罗只是在强调不同的事情，当他写《歌罗西书》时，因为处境不同。

If you noticed the Colossians sentence was long but it was not nearly as elaborate as that Ephesians sentence, right?

《歌罗西书》中的句子很长，但远没有《以弗所书》句子那样讲究？

In Colossians 4:16, which is actually, I「ll argue, not written by Paul, although it claims to be written by Paul.

歌罗西书第4章第16节，我认为它不是保罗所写，虽然它自诩为保罗所写。

Of course Colossians doesn」t come before Ephesians even though I「m saying it was written before it, and why does Colossians come after Ephesians in the Canon?

当然《歌罗西书》排在《以弗所书》后面,虽然我说它是先完成的，正经中，《歌罗西书》为什么排在《以弗所书》后面？

The Colossians writer, very famously, says, in Christ the entire fullness of God was pleased to dwell.

《歌罗西书》的作者有句话很有名，「父喜欢叫一切的丰盛，在基督里面居住。」

Another major difference is Colossians and Ephesians have a slightly higher Christology.

另一主要区别是，《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》，是略高层次的基督论。

In Colossians and Ephesians there is clearly a patriarchal household structure that」s hierarchical.

在《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》中，有明显的家长制结构，等级分明。

What I think is that Colossians was written by one disciple of Paul.

我认为,《歌罗西书》是保罗的一位门徒写的。

Why does Colossians come after Ephesians in the Canon?

正经中《歌罗西书》为什么排在《以弗所书》后面？

Already in Colossians and Ephesians they set up the household in a clear hierarchical patriarchal situation.

歌罗西书和以弗所书已经在家庭中，建立起明确的家长等级关系。

Whereas the writer of Colossians doesn「t include that.

而《歌罗西书》的作者不包括这些。

It」s almost as if the eschatological timeline, the axis in Paul「s letter, has been just flipped up like this in Colossians and Ephesians, so that」s one major difference.

它就像一条末世时间线，保罗书信中的水平轴，在《歌罗西书》和《以弗所书》中竖了起来，这是一个主要区别。